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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.inkblurt.com/2009/07/06/data-insight-ux/comment-page-1/#comment-62069</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bri That&#039;s a really great distinction -- in general I think it holds up. That is, if we think of &quot;data&quot; in the typical sense of empirical stuff -- numbers, charts, etc. generated by quants and business culture. 
Really, though, the word &quot;data&quot; is so abstract -- it depends so much on context. For example, ethnographic observation is certainly data-gathering, and can be incredibly generative... it can be the raw material that sparks a lot of great ideas we hadn&#039;t thought of before. But even empirical data can sometimes force us to see something in a new light, which can catalyze a new idea. 
So, I dunno ... maybe it&#039;s not the concrete &quot;object&quot; of data -- the numbers themselves -- that are restrictive, but the culture or approach? And maybe we just associate data with one culture over another because those are the folks who tend to use it the most, or by default ... even though the insight/creative types really should embrace empiricism too, just in a different way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bri That&#8217;s a really great distinction &#8212; in general I think it holds up. That is, if we think of &#8220;data&#8221; in the typical sense of empirical stuff &#8212; numbers, charts, etc. generated by quants and business culture.<br />
Really, though, the word &#8220;data&#8221; is so abstract &#8212; it depends so much on context. For example, ethnographic observation is certainly data-gathering, and can be incredibly generative&#8230; it can be the raw material that sparks a lot of great ideas we hadn&#8217;t thought of before. But even empirical data can sometimes force us to see something in a new light, which can catalyze a new idea.<br />
So, I dunno &#8230; maybe it&#8217;s not the concrete &#8220;object&#8221; of data &#8212; the numbers themselves &#8212; that are restrictive, but the culture or approach? And maybe we just associate data with one culture over another because those are the folks who tend to use it the most, or by default &#8230; even though the insight/creative types really should embrace empiricism too, just in a different way?</p>
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		<title>By: Bri Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tossing around the idea in my head that insight is generative, while data is restrictive, when it comes to design.  That is to say, data can help you narrow down from a set of possibilities, but it cannot by itself create anything new.  So the process is one of intuition or insight coming up with a range of possibilities, and then using data to cut away until you settle on one.

I can&#039;t decide if this is actually true in real life, though.

What do you think?  Is there a counterexample?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tossing around the idea in my head that insight is generative, while data is restrictive, when it comes to design.  That is to say, data can help you narrow down from a set of possibilities, but it cannot by itself create anything new.  So the process is one of intuition or insight coming up with a range of possibilities, and then using data to cut away until you settle on one.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t decide if this is actually true in real life, though.</p>
<p>What do you think?  Is there a counterexample?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew Great to bring up Ed Wood. For every &quot;Genius Design&quot; practitioner, Ed Wood makes for a great counter example. And the movie captures the blind optimism that usually greases the wheels of a design disaster. His cult fame is hardly, however, &quot;success&quot;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew Great to bring up Ed Wood. For every &#8220;Genius Design&#8221; practitioner, Ed Wood makes for a great counter example. And the movie captures the blind optimism that usually greases the wheels of a design disaster. His cult fame is hardly, however, &#8220;success&#8221;. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a person who came from a culture of data-heavy and data-driven (usually poor) design, I couldn&#039;t agree more. Data is not the stuff of design. It&#039;s an emergent property. Data *informs* design...it can never drive it.

Unfortunately I&#039;ve seen many otherwise talented usability analysts say &quot;we need more data.&quot; Increasingly I say &quot;feh.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person who came from a culture of data-heavy and data-driven (usually poor) design, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Data is not the stuff of design. It&#8217;s an emergent property. Data *informs* design&#8230;it can never drive it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;ve seen many otherwise talented usability analysts say &#8220;we need more data.&#8221; Increasingly I say &#8220;feh.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chris That is quite a quotation. It just drips with a certain sort of heroism like you say. But also as you say, it&#039;s successful &quot;in the right hands.&quot; One of my favorite movies is Ed Wood -- there&#039;s a guy who had all the vision &amp; heroic belief in himself, but was really a mess when it came to the end result. (Though, hell, he has a huge cult following, so maybe he was successful too?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chris That is quite a quotation. It just drips with a certain sort of heroism like you say. But also as you say, it&#8217;s successful &#8220;in the right hands.&#8221; One of my favorite movies is Ed Wood &#8212; there&#8217;s a guy who had all the vision &#038; heroic belief in himself, but was really a mess when it came to the end result. (Though, hell, he has a huge cult following, so maybe he was successful too?)</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew, I thought you&#039;d like this quote:

&quot;I make all my decisions on intuition. I throw a spear into the darkness. That is intuition. Then I must send an army into the darkness to find the spear. That is intellect.&quot; - Ingmar Bergman

I like how he heroically articulates a common and perfectly normal (and in the right hands quite successful) creative process of coming up with the idea first, possibly even implementing it, and conjuring up the rationale after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew, I thought you&#8217;d like this quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I make all my decisions on intuition. I throw a spear into the darkness. That is intuition. Then I must send an army into the darkness to find the spear. That is intellect.&#8221; &#8211; Ingmar Bergman</p>
<p>I like how he heroically articulates a common and perfectly normal (and in the right hands quite successful) creative process of coming up with the idea first, possibly even implementing it, and conjuring up the rationale after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Delcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Delcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts, Andrew.  I like the way you characterize &quot;expertise.&quot;  I&#039;ve tried my own synthesis of the data/insight question, from an anthropologist&#039;s perspective.

theanthroguys.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts, Andrew.  I like the way you characterize &#8220;expertise.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve tried my own synthesis of the data/insight question, from an anthropologist&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>theanthroguys.com</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.inkblurt.com/2009/07/06/data-insight-ux/comment-page-1/#comment-61985</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brandon 

For the sake of the rough provisional model I include here, I might say that the overlap of &quot;Talent&quot; and &quot;Experience&quot; might be called &quot;Expertise.&quot; That is, one might be considered an expert because of a combination of having a knack for a particular kind of work, and enough experience to make that knack perform at a high level. (In Glass&#039; video, he makes that distinction -- you might have a knack, and be able to recognize great work when you see it, but lack the experience to do the same thing or surpass it yet.) 

Add to that the element of understanding -- doing the work necessary to get where your users are coming from, how they behave, what their expectations are, and how you might meet or exceed them. Then you gain new insights for how to design something. If you rely completely on your expertise, it seems to me you&#039;re shutting yourself off from the possibility of much insight. Insight, to me, implies you&#039;ve discovered or learned something new (or validated or improved upon an existing idea). Taking one&#039;s expertise into the unknown and allowing for discovery and new understanding opens up the possibility for more insight. 
I think I avoided putting &quot;data&quot; or &quot;taste&quot; in the model specifically because they&#039;re red herrings, of a sort. Data is just a set of inert facts. And &quot;taste&quot; is a vague, subjective term that folks bandy about the way alchemists used the word &quot;aether&quot; -- a stand-in for something they hadn&#039;t really nailed down yet. It&#039;s fraught with cultural baggage and attitude, and in my experience only complicates any design conversation. (If one person thinks the design should be X because of &#039;taste&#039; it implies the other person is lacking in &#039;taste&#039; which is a pretty big insult, and probably wrong.)
So, &quot;taste&quot; isn&#039;t really  definable. Expertise, while somewhat subjective, is a more useful term. And if a designer holds a particular position on a given design based on the designer&#039;s expertise, it&#039;s up to that designer to make the case for it, based on prior experience, logical argument, or charismatic flourish -- whatever works ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brandon </p>
<p>For the sake of the rough provisional model I include here, I might say that the overlap of &#8220;Talent&#8221; and &#8220;Experience&#8221; might be called &#8220;Expertise.&#8221; That is, one might be considered an expert because of a combination of having a knack for a particular kind of work, and enough experience to make that knack perform at a high level. (In Glass&#8217; video, he makes that distinction &#8212; you might have a knack, and be able to recognize great work when you see it, but lack the experience to do the same thing or surpass it yet.) </p>
<p>Add to that the element of understanding &#8212; doing the work necessary to get where your users are coming from, how they behave, what their expectations are, and how you might meet or exceed them. Then you gain new insights for how to design something. If you rely completely on your expertise, it seems to me you&#8217;re shutting yourself off from the possibility of much insight. Insight, to me, implies you&#8217;ve discovered or learned something new (or validated or improved upon an existing idea). Taking one&#8217;s expertise into the unknown and allowing for discovery and new understanding opens up the possibility for more insight.<br />
I think I avoided putting &#8220;data&#8221; or &#8220;taste&#8221; in the model specifically because they&#8217;re red herrings, of a sort. Data is just a set of inert facts. And &#8220;taste&#8221; is a vague, subjective term that folks bandy about the way alchemists used the word &#8220;aether&#8221; &#8212; a stand-in for something they hadn&#8217;t really nailed down yet. It&#8217;s fraught with cultural baggage and attitude, and in my experience only complicates any design conversation. (If one person thinks the design should be X because of &#8216;taste&#8217; it implies the other person is lacking in &#8216;taste&#8217; which is a pretty big insult, and probably wrong.)<br />
So, &#8220;taste&#8221; isn&#8217;t really  definable. Expertise, while somewhat subjective, is a more useful term. And if a designer holds a particular position on a given design based on the designer&#8217;s expertise, it&#8217;s up to that designer to make the case for it, based on prior experience, logical argument, or charismatic flourish &#8212; whatever works ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Schauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Schauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy this separation between data-driven and insight-driven, but I wonder if it applies to many disciplines beyond UX. Good marketing is insight driven, not just data-driven. The same could be said of good sales or good HR.

I think the separation from other disciplines comes from the insights we seek: they&#039;re usually about the lives of people and how our solutions -- as experiences -- fit in with their lives.

But the most interesting relationship you&#039;ve outlined is the relationship of data, insight, and taste. Do you think of &#039;taste&#039; as being insight developed without data?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy this separation between data-driven and insight-driven, but I wonder if it applies to many disciplines beyond UX. Good marketing is insight driven, not just data-driven. The same could be said of good sales or good HR.</p>
<p>I think the separation from other disciplines comes from the insights we seek: they&#8217;re usually about the lives of people and how our solutions &#8212; as experiences &#8212; fit in with their lives.</p>
<p>But the most interesting relationship you&#8217;ve outlined is the relationship of data, insight, and taste. Do you think of &#8216;taste&#8217; as being insight developed without data?</p>
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